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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: a couple of catts'
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:45

I remember showing 236 last year − Lc Novissima "Blue Shadows" as No.16 in
this series- so I guess I have come round full circle. It is interesting to
compare the two pictures.This year's flowers are of much better quality,
wider petals, flatter ; and wider blade of the labellum. Still not very blue
, and I assume that this is a meristem , so either the original was grown
quite differently from mine, or the grower ( and namer) looked at his/her
creation through blue-tinted spectacles. A big flower, more than six inches
north-south, but quite elegant to my mind. Some big flowers seem gropss to
me ( mop chrysanths', giant cactus dahlias to name but two... but it's
really all in the mind, I think).

234. Cattleya bowringiana − which I have labelled as cv "Andy" − he will
know why − to distinguish it from the now half a dozen different clones in
my collection ( e.g. v.coerulea, ; v Pink Elf x self, and so on − although
in general the bifoliate cattleyas do not seem to exist in the same range of
varieties − alba, semi-alba, albescens, etc, as do the unifoliates ; none
of my other cvs is quite up to flowering size yet ).

This is the first year I have had two leads; both carry 10 flowers. The
canes at 17 inches to the base of the leaves are perhaps a couple of inches
short of the best previous,; Withner says "canes to 24 inches" and also
that the number of flowers depends on the size of the cane − so a little way
yet to go.

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Cattleya bowringiana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:30

It is nice to see your version of this Geoff. Here is mine − currently at it's best, though the photo is just a quick snap. The tallest cane is 16 inches to the first leaf − I think I grow it very bright. The flower count on the tallest is 17. This is the second year out of hydroculture and I am fairly pleased with it. This is a little bit of a very large plant that just got too big but I expect in another couple of years it will have 5 or 6 leads. I associate it with Bob Dadd. I got it from him when he got too ill to continue.

The other is C b Coerulea. I bought a couple of young ones of these a couple of years back and both flowered this year for the first tiome. I look forward to having big clumps of it too. The flowers are bigger and with a fuller shape.

More and more I am interested in minis and growing them mounted. Here are a few choice ones in bloom now.

Barbosella handroi. Tiny species from the coastal cloud forests of Brazil. This is a very young plant − I have seen it form great mats covered in these lovely little flowers − spectacular.

Epidendrum porpax − Another mat-foming species this time from Cuba and the Dominican Republic. The flowers really look like insects ready to fly off if you come too close. I had this as a tiny bit a year ago and I mounted it on the bottom of the bark thinking it woulg grow up − wrong!

Masdevallia strobelii. This was my first Masdy and it sold the group to me. It just keeps getting better ad better and seems to like being split. Flowers are fragrant too. It's a mini species from Ecuador and Peru

Trisetella hoeijeri. This is a splendid little species from Ecuador. The flowers are 5 cms across − on a 1-2 cm plant. They last well if the humidity is high. I don't find white flowers that easy to photograph − I tend to lose the detail and subtlety.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cattleya bowringiana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:15

Nice to see and hear this. I had wondered how many flowering growths could
be got in one pot , which obviously depends on how frequently extra growths
appear.

Cattleyas appear to be able to keep leaves on quite old growths, presumably
meaning roots too , since usually leaves fall off after the roots specific
to that bulb have died, and of course they don't live for ever, however good
the culture. My plant now has 8 canes all with leaves, and this is the first
year with two growths . but probably also the first year I have grown it
really well ( if I do say so myself).

You are right about catts loving light ( photophilic is the term I believe)
, and mine have been grown under supplementary lighting for almost a year
now , well some of them , I didn't intend to use the lights for the
cattleyas or indeed adult plants at all when I started experiments, but I
noticed so much activity within days of plants being accidentally exposed to
the light , flushes of new roots etc , that I started experimenting on a
tray of cattleyas. As the year went on ( I started just before Xmas last
year) I did more and more, until by mid October I had all of my centre bench
lit from end-to-end and side-to-side. There is even some light spill on the
side benches. My greenhouse is 15 ft wide , two side benches, 2 narrow
paths, and a centre bench 6 foot wide.

I have just been out with the light meter ; 9am, late November, between two
rain showers and a bit brighter than it had been. Maximum clear sky (
i.e.clouds, but no shadow from trees etc ) is 1600 Lux , The brightest I
have ever read is 76000 Lux.....summer, clear sky, not a trace of haze, mid
day.... In the greenhouse now, under the lights, max is 20000 Lux and this
oscillates between that figure and 10000 as the lights move back and forth.
This helps to ensure good coverage too since the light first shines on one
side of the plants then overhead, then the other side. The minimum light in
the house seems to be about 3000 lux even in places where the lamps don't
shine , due to reflections from the glass etc, I suppose. Turn the lights
off, and the range is from 400 to 900 Lux , which I think is too low to
allow growth of most things.

The other important point think is that my plants are getting this, 12
hours a day, even on the shortest day, so the plants which have been there
longest are making two successive good growths per year and many are
flowering twice per year. I reckon that the growth rate of young plants ,
not flowering, is perhaps 3 times what it would be without lights.

I buy my gas and electricity from the same supplier ; I had two letters from
them a couple of months ago, one saying they were reducing my gas ( heating)
direct debit by £10 pm 'in view of my reduced usage' and the other saying
exactly the opposite for my electric bill. So the 'extra' cost is offset by
reduced heating cost.

Guaranthe and Prosthechea etc , the whole revison of the Laeliniae is a
nightmare. Who knows what to expect of an Epicatanthe ? Or a Mantinara ? If
I tell you it's an Epilaelocattleya you might know ( Don Herman is listed
under all three on OrchidWiz , the first is the latest and the 'proper' one
!

But one of the more intellectual of the South American ladies ( maybe it
was Andrea who has a doctorate in virology ) told me that Cattleya
aurantiaca is the latest proper name for the plant I have always known under
that name.... full circle in other words.

I now make new labels saying Blc (etc) and leave it to 'clever judges' to
change it, if they want . As long as the plant doesn't get marked down in a
show for that reason, what does it matter . And the only significance of
the name on the plant is to identify it ; which identifies better, Epilc Don
Herman or Mtra Don herman ?

End of rant. ( and yes I do know that we shall not 'recognise' Mtra until we
start using the new names , but let's wait and see if they are really
accepted, or 10 minute wonders which get blown away ?)

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 4 minis
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:25

I only have a single one Pleuro now − which is just about to flower for the
first time. It is P.immersa , which I saw in Costa Rica , covering several
feet along a branch, with lovely orange flowers. But maybe it is colour
variable or I have a bad form ( mine came from a tiny seedling − has taken
may a decade to get it up to flowering ) − the buds look to be a dirty brown
colour . I did at one time have a whole greenhouse full ( a 12 x 10) but I
sold them all to Mansell & Hatcher when my interests changed, maybe 18 or
19 years ago − I turned the house into a vanda house. They are interesting
and pretty − but there isn't room, time or money enough to grow everything.

Yes white flowers are the devil. I recently found that setting my Nikon to a
specific white balance instead of leaving it on automatic, and then using a
slow exposure on a tripod (out of the wind ) produced the best results .

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Andy's slab culture.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:35

Superb photos, with names, and showing the true observer such great information.

Maybe many people who have tried to grow such Genus and failed.......me included........will now try again.

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 4 minis
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:20

Culture: temp? humidity? air fans? mounting media moss? plastic baskets? how often do you water? mist drench?

> More and more I am interested in minis and growing them mounted.
> Here are a few choice ones in bloom now.

> Barbosella handroi. Tiny species from the coastal cloud forests of
> Brazil. This is a very young plant − I have seen it form great
> mats covered in these lovely little flowers − spectacular.

> Epidendrum porpax − Another mat-foming species this time from Cuba
> and the Dominican Republic. The flowers really look like insects
> ready to fly off if you come too close. I had this as a tiny bit a
> year ago and I mounted it on the bottom of the bark thinking it
> woulg grow up − wrong!

> Masdevallia strobelii. This was my first Masdy and it sold the
> group to me. It just keeps getting better ad better and seems to
> like being split. Flowers are fragrant too. It's a mini species
> from Ecuador and Peru

> Trisetella hoeijeri. This is a splendid little species from
> Ecuador. The flowers are 5 cms across − on a 1-2 cm plant. They
> last well if the humidity is high. I don't find white flowers that
> easy to photograph − I tend to lose the detail and subtlety.

From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:10

Please find accompanying two pictures of my currently flowering bulbo. Apologies for not providing visible 'names' on the images but although I tried to encrypt 'labels' in my Picasa software I cannot get them to appear. Any advice on this would be appreciated.
Otherwise enjoy these un-named views of my bulbo..
Regards Bill Haldane

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] 4 minis
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:55

I don't use moss in mounting but if bits grow naturally I leave it unless it causes excessive sogginess.

All apart from tthe Masdevallia are grown cool − MWN is 10ºc. The Masdy is grown warmer − MWN 15ºc.

All sprayed early morning − a good soaking and in summer they may get a second spray if I am around. PLenty of damping down to keep the humidity up − not needed here at this time of year but may be in winter when the heaters are very drying.

I use all sorts of bark mounts − in these examples 3 are on cork − either matural or reconstituted. The Epidendrum is on elder. I now have many hundreds of mounted plants on whatever sort of wood or bark that comes to hand.

Feed very weak − as otherwise it may become too concentrated as it dries and burn. I don't know how realistic that concern is but the regime seems to work.

From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cattleya bowringiana
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:15

Well folks I have a C. bowringiana too, I thought it would be the pride of
my lounge, 3 canes and 7 big buds on each but after seeing yours and
geoff's I feel a bit deflated! One thing though, mine looks a much
shorter plant than them. I suppose there are many different varieties.

> It is nice to see your version of this Geoff. Here is mine − currently at
> it's best, though the photo is just a quick snap. The tallest cane is 16
> inches to the first leaf − I think I grow it very bright. The flower
> count on the tallest is 17. This is the second year out of hydroculture
> and I am fairly pleased with it. This is a little bit of a very large
> plant that just got too big but I expect in another couple of years it
> will have 5 or 6 leads. I associate it with Bob Dadd. I got it from him
> when he got too ill to continue.
>
> The other is C b Coerulea. I bought a couple of young ones of these a
> couple of years back and both flowered this year for the first tiome. I
> look forward to having big clumps of it too. The flowers are bigger and
> with a fuller shape.
>
> (By the way − whatever happened to the silliness that was Guaranthe?)
>
> Andy

From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:15

From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:50

I presume that "Jersey" is a clonal name that you have given your Bulbo. (?) So what is its full name?

You can change the name of each file by .... right click on the file, then click "rename", and then rename the file to what ever you want. That way the name will follow the file when you attach it to your email.

From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Maxillara valenzuelana
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:55

Here is a weird Maxillara that I have not seen before and can find very little about on the net. It was given to me about 2 months ago, by a friend who claims he has never flowered it.

On the net this is sometimes called M. valenzuala ansd sometimes Heterotaxis valenzuelana (according to Kew's checklist) and even Pleurothallis valenzuelana. It comes from central and south America and has fan shaped leaves as you can see from pic 3.

PS you may also enjoy the newsletter from the Species Orchid Society of Western Australia (which I have something to do with) at....
http://members.iinet.net.au/~emntee/Species_Newsletter.htm

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:40

Sorry I don't know anything about Picasa software. I use Photoshop and make
a separate plain white layer just a bit higher than the pic, add the name to
that , and then flatten the layers.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:25

Tony, 'Jersey' is the name registered in 1996 by the Eric Young
Foundation for the hybrid lobbii x echinolabium.

I think Bill means actually putting a caption on the image itself,
although your hint on renaming the file is useful too.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Maxillara valenzuelana
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:40

I am quite keen on Maxillarias and whilst I think yours is a very
nice plant it doesn't resemble any Maxillarias I have seen before -
not that that means much these days with taxonomy in such a state of
flux! Anyway, well done for flowering it. What conditions do you grow
it in?

From: francis quesada pallares
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Maxillara valenzuelana
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:00

Someone who might be able to shed some light on the issue of the name, and possible conditions is Mike Mclmurray (not sure of the spelling). He is the holder of the National Maxillaria Collection on the UK. You can find his email very easily on the BOC website.

He is a very friendly chap. Excellent knowledge on the Maxillaria field, and very, very keen to discuss them. I had an excellent time with him on our trip with the OSGB to Ecuador during Easter, and got very inspired by him.

From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Maxillara valenzuelana
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:20

I guess it is better known as Heterotaxis valenzuelana these days but who
knows what it will be next week!! Does this mean it is no longer a
Maxillara?? Who knows!!

There are many south American orchids that have this fan shape growth as I
am sure you are aware. Strange though they are

I am not sure what conditions it was grown in before I received it about 2
months ago, but I have it in my hothouse at a min 15C since then. Also the
fact that it is now late springtime here (in Perth Western Australia) is a
major factor in the new growth that can just be seen in the centre of the
plant in the pic of the full plant. (As an aside, I could mention that we
have just had the strangest springtime here with the wettest and coolest
spring surely on record. It's not over yet so all the data is not in, but we
had 36C yesterday and 23C today and a short shower!!)

I am pleased that you like the link to the Sp Orchid Society of WA
Newsletter, it changes every month. I do not put the text together but
upload it all to the net. The pix are generally mine too unless we are off
on jaunt to see orchids in SE Asia and then someone else takes the pix at
the meetings we miss.

And thanks for the info re Bulbo Jersey, I was surprised to see the large
flowers on it but your explanation of the breeding explains that. I have a
Bulbo echinolabium which grows well for me in the hothouse, and has flowered
each year for.????? years. A great flower and a real attention grabber.

About Bills efforts to get the name of the plant on the picture.... I use MS
Picture It which makes it all so easy.

From: Bill Haldane
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:20

Hello Alex,
Bulbo. lobbii is one of the parents of 'Jersey', a cross made by the Eric
Young Foundation in, of course, Jersey.
Regards Bill

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:30

Your 'Jersey' puts mine to shame! I have just moved mine near a fan
and it clearly doesn't like it so I shall have to re-locate it
again...

I think Picasa is great for putting captions on images and am sorry
you are having problems. Please give us a step-by-step account of how
you are attempting this and we might be able to put you on the right
track − I am using the Mac version of Picasa, but I doubt there is
much difference from the Windows version in the operation of it.

From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: [OrchidTalk] Bulbophyllum 'Jersey'
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:55

I must admit to being confused with the reference to Bulbo 'Jersey'. The use
of inverted comas (?) means that the name within, is a clonal name.

It seems that with this Bulbo, Jersey is in fact the registered name of the
orchid and should thus be written Bulbophyllum Jersey.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Maxillara valenzuelana
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:10

You are not pulling my leg I suppose ? The plant looks exactly like the
great bearded irises I grow in my garden . The flower however, I will
believe is a maxillaria. Quite a nice one too. But a real weirdie this, is
it not !

The oddest one I ever had was one I collected in Costa Rica very many years
ago − pre CITES , so maybe when I went in the 70s or 80s − memory fades -
old men forget as they say − at least details like dates ; the plants remain
clear in my mind. I thought I had got what we now call Oerstedia − it was a
pale blue species I hoped to find ; the one I picked from an obvious trail
of seedlings along a fence − would you believe − in a very wet part of the
country not far from Arenal volcano was a thing about six inches high,
single growth, pairs of opposite leaves − obviously an orchid , but I can't
tell you how I can say that, but 99.5% of the time I'm right, as of course
any other enthusiast with 10 or 20 years of growing miscellaneous species
can be. When it flowered several years later it was a couple of feet high,
still single growth... identified for me as "one of the horse maxillarias,
very difficult to tell the species, half of them have never been
named"...needless to say it was not the most spectacular plant , like yours
, although the flower was nowhere near as pretty.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: [OrchidTalk] not orchids
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:00

Tricia, You always end with a little quote. I heard a good one today at my local Probus.
" Understand that, on average, 50% of your acquaintances are sub-normal"
Regards

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] not orchids
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:00

Dennis thanks for the quote, I will add it to my list :-) I have a
file of one-liners and my email program picks one at random to add to
my messages − sometimes they are surprisingly appropriate.

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Cattleya bowringiana
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:10

I would not like my photos to leave you down-hearted! Enjoy the one you
have and see that as it grows it will be even better next year − and if you
need any cultural advice just ask! If your plant is shorter it may be that
it is a young one − as is the coerulea form in my photos.

> Well folks I have a C. bowringiana too, I thought it would be the pride of
> my lounge, 3 canes and 7 big buds on each but after seeing yours and
> geoff's I feel a bit deflated! One thing though, mine looks a much
> shorter plant than them. I suppose there are many different varieties.
>
> Regards, Alex

From: Kenneth Bruyninckx
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Maxillara valenzuelana
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:00

Have a look at
http://orchid.unibas.ch/phpMyHerbarium/300554/1/Heterotaxis/valenzuelana//sp
ecimen.php
and especially the drawing of the live plant (not the herbarium
ones).

Maxillaria valenzuelana (or Heterotaxis valenzuelana now) is a pendant
species, so you really need to grow it upside down ;-)

We had a plant or 2 for a number of years growing that way, it was a bit
tricky for us back then to grow in the intermediate/warm house as it never
got enough water, temperature wise it was ok at 15°C at night and 21°C
during the day (warmer in summer).
In the end they decided to give up on us, or was it the other way round?

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From: Tony Watkinson
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Maxillara valenzuelana
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:50

I did come across the url with the drawing in it (and a fine drawing it is too). As I mentioned, I was only given this plant about two months ago and this is the first time I have researched the name. (I notice that have been spelling Maxillaria wrong too, but it doesn't matter as it is now called Heterotaxis)

It's a bit soon to be mounting this as it is now in flower, but I will attempt to do so when the flowering is done.

From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Pollinating terrestrials
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:45

Hello Roger − you are in print! your bee photos are in the latest Orchid
Review and look good.
Regards, Alex

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pollinating terrestrials
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:40

For a moment or two....more like three or four, I could not quite understand
what you were on about, then I thought that I might have sent some images to
someone, somewhen, but my only guess is that I may have sent some to
Isabel?????

I don't subscribe to the magazine, so any chances of showing me what images
are in there? Or how I can see them?

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pollinating terrestrials
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:50

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: rogers photos
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:10

Here is the article in the December issue of OR1288.Roger − Well done
Goeff. I got this last Thursday in the wild north Devon. So much for the sophisticated South.
Isobyl has said this is her last issue. I think she has done a great job balancing between growers, showers(?) and botanists. Goodness knows what we will get if the RHS MBA's take over.
Regards from a wind swept North Devon

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Minature Orchids
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:15

This is for our Minature Orchid Growers (orchid size not grower size). From todays Telegraph but as it is in the press have a pinch of salt handy

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/smallest-orchid-in-the-world-is-found-1831104.html

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] rogers photos
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:55

From: Alex
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Pollinating terrestrials
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:15

Yes, the OR Dec 2009, Roger's pics are on page 237 and there are more
discussions on pollination on pages 184 and 185 so it is a subject of
interest.
Regards, Alex

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] rogers photos
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:15

Thank you for putting that page on so that I could understand what you were telling me. I must admit that I do like wandering around the New Forest looking for such moments to capture on film/image. They don't turn up very often, but the interest that they generate is excellent. Of course it's not all milk and honey, bugs, ticks, mud, wind and a thousand other things............but it is good fun.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Minature Orchids
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30

I love that bit one of the worlds leading orchid hunters ... just let your imagination run....

As to the world s smallest orchid flower I have been shown that several times ( always a different species, usually a different country/continent..) . but like most Guiness Book of Records things, it s pretty meaningless . So what, I say.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Looking back.
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:55

After your comments I thought I would send you a few images taken last year of a variety of our Native Orchids. I have not bothered to name them on purpose, as it's about time you all began to recognise them..................what's that I here Tricia say!

The Early Spider orchids have such amazing 'eyes'. Sometimes they look so mournful, and yet other times [and you have to use your imagination] they tell us that are related to squid......have a look.

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March	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-31	April	1-7	8-14	15-21	22-30
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2009 Archived Messages

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