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From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Phalaenopsis parishii, Phalaenopsis hainanensis, Phalaenopsis lobbii (2)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:20

Go to www.ecotechnics.co.uk for all details − you can get them in Blue, Red
or Purple spectrum − the latter being the best compromise, perhaps.

I can recommend that you try Growell Hydroponics for them − they seem to be
a lot cheaper than everyone else, and give me good service.

David Martin wrote Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Phalaenopsis parishii, Phalaenopsis hainanensis, Phalaenopsis lobbii (2)

> Haven't heard of the mini fluorescents, they sound a good idea, will get
> some before next winter. What sort of tube are they, Daylight, Warm white,
> Grolux? Don't suppose it matters too much as it's only supplementary light.
> I have been keeping the phal's at about 19deg C at night and about 21deg C
> during the day. Thank goodness the greenhouse goes up to 30deg C these sunny
> days. It's not up there for long and the humidity is about 80% so they seem
> to thrive on it. I used to keep them warmer but the electricity bills are so
> high now that I reduced the temps by a couple of degrees.

From: Esther Koh
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] clearbury rings
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:50

I was too early to see any orchids on the Wicklow Way when I was in Ireland last week.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Non flowering orchids
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:55

I was once told a sure fire way of getting an orchid to flower - Give it away.
Many years ago I bought Bifrenaria harrisoniae ( from the Trussels before they closed a long while ago) but could not get it to flower. I divided it and gave aportion to a colleague. Last year and this year he has gently showed it at the Devon OS. This year I have beaten him. Here is a photograph of mine − two flowers on one spike. Hows that Bill !
Regards from Devon No shorts yet Roger

From: David Martin
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Phalaenopsis parishii, Phalaenopsis hainanensis, Phalaenopsis lobbii (2)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:10

I have the Growell Hydroponics catalogue from about 5 years ago that Sheila
got me . No Ecotechnics lighting in there so will go to their web site.
Thanks for the information.

"geoff hands" wrote RE: [OrchidTalk] Emailing: Phalaenopsis parishii, Phalaenopsis hainanensis, Phalaenopsis lobbii (2)

> Go to www.ecotechnics.co.uk for all details − you can get them in
> Blue, Red or Purple spectrum − the latter being the best
> compromise, perhaps.
>
> I can recommend that you try Growell Hydroponics for them − they
> seem to be a lot cheaper than everyone else, and give me good
> service.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Moss behind roots.
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:15

You wrote: Hello Rodge,
Sorry to upset you but this one has a pad of moss to get it started.
Once the roots are attached, then I tease the moss out. It's only 5CM
across so it needs a bit of help to get started. Anyway most orchids
have a certain amount of detritus and moss around their roots in the
wild or they would desiccate.
David

O.K. I will let you off just this once, ha, ha. As for the detritus and moss around the roots........................well, some of them yes, and some of them no.

Anyhow, my brain is still aching from my latest Wild Orchid Safari, in a friends field in the New Forest. Full of Common Marsh/Common Spotted/Heath Spotted hybrids. And for sure there was a little touch of the Early Marsh in there somewhere.

In a week or so I am going back to take many photos, so, as they say, 'Watch this space.'

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: The mind boggling Marsh Orchid hybrids.
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:30

You can see by the markings on the leaves, that they are for sure hybrids. Some without any markings, some with just a few markings, and so on, and so on.

There is one thing that really does annoy me, and that is that some people pay special attention, almost 'homage' to one of these hybrids. They are the ones that have ring markings on their leaves. It has been given the name of, 'The Leopard Marsh Orchid'. Some people go on about it as if it was something amazing and fantastic.....but it is just one of the hybrids that occur when the four Dactyl orchids get together.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Non flowering orchids
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 06:10

I think two flowers per spike is the normal for these bifrenarias ? Not
knocking you Dennis, just pointing it out !

They are funny (peculiar) things to grow and I can't remember the trick to
get them to flower − maybe a warmer dry rest... also need to be pot-bound. I
used to grow them when I had a cool-house ( circa 10-12 deg winter night
temperature). I have seen them wiyth a dozen flowers on a 4 or 5 inch
pot-ful.

> I was once told a sure fire way of getting an orchid to flower − Give it
> away.

> Many years ago I bought Bifrenaria harrisoniae ( from the Trussels before
> they closed a long while ago) but could not get it to flower. I divided it
> and gave aportion to a colleague. Last year and this year he has gently
> showed it at the Devon OS. This year I have beaten him. Here is a photograph
> of mine − two flowers on one spike. Hows that Bill !

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Non flowering orchids
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:40

Thanks Geof, It is now in full su, potbound and dry so I think I may have cracked it.
Regards

> I think two flowers per spike is the normal for these bifrenarias
> ? Not knocking you Dennis, just pointing it out ! They are funny
> (peculiar) things to grow and I can t remember the trick to get
> them to flower maybe a warmer dry rest... also need to be
> pot-bound. I used to grow them when I had a cool-house ( circa
> 10-12 deg winter night temperature). I have seen them wiyth a dozen
> flowers on a 4 or 5 inch pot-ful.

> > I was once told a sure fire way of getting an orchid to flower -
> > Give it away.

> > Many years ago I bought Bifrenaria harrisoniae ( from the
> > Trussels before they closed a long while ago) but could not get
> > it to flower. I divided it and gave aportion to a colleague. Last
> > year and this year he has gently showed it at the Devon OS. This
> > year I have beaten him. Here is a photograph of mine − two
> > flowers on one spike. Hows that Bill !

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Beware what lies within.
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:25

I recently bought the six orchids that you see from a shall we say, 'Garden Centre'. They are all multi Genera type plants. A bit of Odontoglossum, a bit of Oncidium, a bit of maybe Miltonia and or whatever else fits the bill. All of the plants looked very good indeed, and I was not that much fussed as the six cost me just £18. Yep, that's just £3 each. Not bad eh!

All of the plants have been de-potted, roots cleaned leaving no shred of what was there before, washed and re-potted.

The first plant was potted in just pieces of bark. Very easy to remove.
The second plant was potted in bark, but with what I can only call a network of fine peaty substance. Not so easy to remove.
The third,fourth and fifth were potted on bark, but in the centre of the compost was the usual moss cone.
The sixth plant was potted in bark, but I noticed something in the centre of the compost. When I eventually teased away the bark I was surprised to find a peat pot. This, like the cones of moss were for sure what the growers used to put the plant in, in its very young stage.

I hate to think what would have happened if I had not taken the steps that I normally take.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: The Early Marsh orchids.
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:35

I had a quick 'Safari' into the New Forest to have a peep at the Early Marsh orchids. This was on Saturday May 23rd just before the 'Grockles' arrived in their droves !!!!

Although this year I was maybe a week or so early to find them at their best, there were a few well in flower.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Lesser Butterfly Orchid.
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:40

On that Saturday afternoon when I made my quick Safari, I went to see how the Lesser Butterfly orchids were doing.....and the answer that they gave me was.....very well thank you..

You can see that at this stage they can be very difficult to find, some of them being quite 'sneaky'.

Have a look at the close-up, image No. 6. the full face flower, and you can make out the two pollinia, each with its own sticky pad which is used to stick to the visiting insects head.

I hope to go there one evening when the Grockles have departed....maybe next week to hopefully snap an insect [moth] doing its party piece.

As I was only on a quick Safari I did not bother to use my tripod, so the images are not to my normal standard. Fussy old bugger I am.

From: JIM MATEOSKY
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: for the root people: fotos de "el bosque"
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:20

there are from a very impressive, yet little know, cloud forest near where I live in Costa Rica. it is at 1500M. The forest is covered with oncidiums,sobralias,Pleurothallis alliance, Polycycnis, arpophylums, lycastes, draculas, masdevalias, epidenriums.... I am sure I left some out. The point is many many many in a small space and growing in similar conditions. Most of which are in these fotos. long roots on fairly smooth tree bark, covered in very fluffy, moss. This is the most important point here. very fluffy moss the moss is always damp but there is lots of air in the moss. so often I see people compacting moss, or compacting the plants in the pots...wrong. FLUFFY
Many trees had 8-9 different species and many plants of each species.

I have seen many Cats growing just like this, only in a dryer forrest,i.e much less or no moss.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Roy's Vanda.
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:40

Don't rub it in mate, I'm joking of course, but it hurts when you talk of your hot room, especially when your weather in Sydney is so much warmer than other parts of the world.......U.K. And do I see that your Vanda is growing outside in a shade house?

I certainly like it very much, especially the bottom flowers, which are darker than the others. Maybe because they are slightly older, or in the shade?

Can you please take a close up of a couple of flowers, especially one side view as I would like to see the lip in more detail.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Beware what lies within.
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:40

The thing which really amazes me that orchid seedlings can be raised
successfully , as they obviously were, in almost the same conditions as
would have been used for so many other garden plants ! , peat 'jiffy pots'
for example , as used for tomato plants...

> I recently bought the six orchids that you see from a shall we say, 'Garden
> Centre'...

> ...All of the plants have been de-potted, roots cleaned leaving no shred of
> what was there before, washed and re-potted....

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Roots on trees.
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:15

Thank you for the excellent photos of the orchids growing on the trees with the FLUFFY moss around them. And as you say the moss should not be compacted.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Beware what lies within.
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:15

Your comments have just jogged my memory.......................needs a fair bit of jogging at our age, what say you?

Geoff, I must take a photo of, or buy a packet of .....Mycorhizal Fungi, which is on the shelves of one of the Garden Centres that I visit. On second thoughts, I will buy a packet.

Have you come across it yet? When I do buy a packet, I will be spurred on by your comments and start sowing some terrestrial seed.

By the way, I feel that many of us could sow some of the U.K. wild seed and just see what happens.

I know that Gordon up in Aberdeen uses all the correct apparatus, but I will have a try as only a couple of days ago I was checking for any weeds that grow to one side of and to the back of my greenhouse. Both back and side abound by a wall. To my surprise there are two Helleborines growing there.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda.
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:25

I don't understand this message ; I have not seen any message about Roy's
Vandas.... ?

> Don't rub it in mate, I'm joking of course, but it hurts when you talk of
> your hot room, especially when your weather in Sydney is so much warmer than
> other parts of the world.......U.K. And do I see that your Vanda is
> growing outside in a shade house?

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda.
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:35

I never saw any correspondense on Roy's Vanda. I guess that BT strike again
Regards

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda.
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:40

> I never saw any correspondense on Roy's Vanda. I guess that BT
> strike again Regards

> > Hi there Roy, Don't rub it in mate, I'm joking of course, but
> > it hurts when you talk of your hot room, especially when your
> > weather in Sydney is so much warmer than other parts of the
> > world.......U.K. And do I see that your Vanda is growing
> > outside in a shade house?

No such message sent to the list − Roger's mixed up the list and
private correspondence, I suspect. Pity, because I for one wouldn't
mind seeing said Vanda.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Beware what lies within.
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:25

When I moved to my present address , a new house and new garden ,I used this
stuff for most of my plantings. There was a firm selling it in three
varieties , one for roses, one for tree and shrubs and a third for
perennials etc.

I have had excellent growth here , too much in the case of some of the trees
, and three have had to be removed. I had been putting this down to the
climate, which is undoubtedly very good on the coast here , and also to the
soil which is the deepest alluvial soil I have ever seen , when the builders
dug the pit for the sewage system, and I looked into it, the top soil
appeared to be about 5 feet deep before the colour changed to that of the
underlying chalk , a product of the ice-age which carved out the valley I
guess.

But I have not seen it on offer since I bought it in '04 and would like to
use it again for new plantings as I make them. What is it called in your
Garden Centre ?

> Your comments have just jogged my memory.......................needs a fair
> bit of jogging at our age, what say you?

> Geoff, I must take a photo of, or buy a packet of .....Mycorhizal Fungi,
> which is on the shelves of one of the Garden Centres that I visit. On
> second thoughts, I will buy a packet.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Fw: Vanda
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:10

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: my latest pics
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:15

114a Cleisostoma micrantha − I have shown a pic of this plant before, but
these plants with tiny flowers ( 4mm ?) are tricky to photograph unless one
goes to a lot of trouble − whch I have not done, just have another go every
time I take a camera into the greenhouse − but this is a much better picture
than the one I put up before − and may convey why I think it worthwhile to
grow such a tiny-flowered plant .

119. Encyclia cordigera "dark form". I believe the semi-alba form is the
norm in the wild with a white lip, quite dramatic against the dark tepals .
But I have for some time wanted this form, and now it has flowered I am glad
I have it. The colour of the lip is much more intense than can be shown in a
digital image (I talked to Adobe about it , they say it is 'outside the
gamut', and can't be reproduced ).

I bought it as a "flowering size" plant some 3 years ago − each year I have
increased the bulb size now up to double the original largest, and I don't
think it has finished improving yet − but at least it really is FS now.
Maybe with good culture it can be got up to a dozen flowers − I have had
that many on the semi-alba form.

120. In my garden − Cyp. Ulla Sillkins ( or is it Silkins ?) .I believe I
mentioned that I bought three plants in the autumn of '07. Two put in one
spot − now bearing 4 flowers as shown and one or two un-flowering growths
too. The third I put somewhere else ( with the price at thirty quid each I
didn't want all my eggs in one basket !).

I thought I had lost the third plant ,but doing a spot of thinning out of
plants growing too vigorously and crowding each other out, I found this
clump of four growths − none flowering. I'll move them back to be with the
others in the autumn , since by next Spring they will − fingers crossed , be
getting towards making a decent show. But obviously they like a bit of
competition.

With this experience behind me I am looking for another hybrid to try in
another suitable spot I have ear-marked. I fancy "Rascal" − larger flowers,
chocolate brown ( dare I say "n****r" brown petals ? No ? − I thought
not...) and yellow pouch ; but Frosch's UK designated nursery (Edrom) can
only offer it in small plants 4 years from flowering − which is too long to
wait for an old man like me. An suggestions of other sources ?

122 Bulbo sp. I have shown this before, and don't know the name -
suggestions welcome − the "daisy" is about 2 inch diameter.

123 Bulbo.eberhardtii . Filling a nine inch pan − in fact it did that some
years ago ; this year I cut off all the growths hanging over the edges and
potted them up, to make new plants for those who might want them ; but they
have not started rooting yet − they do this on new growths, which will
emerge after the flowers are over.

124 I bought this as a supposedly fine variety of the well-known Paph
primulinum. It is fine, but honestly, no better than the "ordinary" variety
also in my collection. It is a very "smart" ( neat/trim) flower, and of
course the plant goes on flowering for basically as long as you let it, one
flower after another on the same spike ; 30 flowers are quoted. Personally I
cut the spike after a few , since the rachis ( flower stem) gets a bit ugly
as it lengthens. It is of course not the largest paph flower in the
world....

125 Psychopsis Mariposa. Psychopsis ( abbreviation Pyp) used to be called
Oncidiums, and are popularly called Butterfly orchids. There are maybe 4
species ; papilio ( meaning "butterfly") x kramerianum gives a hybrid whose
name I forget , and back-crossed on to papilio − since they don't seem to
hybridise with anything else other than within this genus − gives Mariposa.
Again bought as an FS seedling but didn't flower on the first year's bulb ,
but is now flowering on both that and the second year ( in my culture) bulb.
Again a successional flowerer , one after the other....Quite a big flower
this, at least 6 inches from top to bottom.

From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda.
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:25

Rodge, this Ascda is long finished flowering but there is another spike coming up so I will take some more pics then. BTW, I'm not in Sydney, I'm in Western Victoria, about 3 hrs drive west of Melbourne.

From: Roy Lee
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Roy's Vanda
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:35

Roger did mix up the e-mails and where I live but thats no problem, I have that problem at times these days.
Anyway, I have added the photo I sent to Roger which is the Orange with purple lip & starry flowered plant. I believe it to be a Trudelia (ex Vanda ) cristata hybrid. I am still chasing the name.
I have added 2 of my own from this years flowering, the Red/Orange is Ascda Yip Sum Wah "RF Orchid" & the last is Vanda Robert's Delight "Red Black", it had 5 flowers.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: Roy's Vanda
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:35

> Roger did mix up the e-mails and where I live but thats no problem,
> I have that problem at times these days.

> Anyway, I have added the photo I sent to Roger which is the Orange
> with purple lip & starry flowered plant. I believe it to be a
> Trudelia (ex Vanda ) cristata hybrid. I am still chasing the name.

> I have added 2 of my own from this years flowering, the Red/Orange
> is Ascda Yip Sum Wah "RF Orchid" & the last is Vanda Robert's
> Delight "Red Black", it had 5 flowers.

Thanks for sorting out the confusion. All very nice flowers − hope
someone can identify the mystery Vanda.

You need to be very careful when drawing up a specification, otherwise you risk getting what you ask for rather than what you want.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda.
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:40

Yes. I know where you live.....................but I must have forgotten to tell my brain !!!!!!!

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:30

It didn't look as though it had much Vanda blood in it, to me − and then
Trudelia was mentioned.
There are two Trudelias I know and have grown − one used to be called Vanda
alpina , the other V..cristata. Anyone who has grown them will not complain
about them being segregated out of Vanda , as they have little in common.
The lip here is very reminiscent of T. cristata − the difference is that in
cristata there are two wings at the tip of the lip , a bit more prominent
than seen in Roy's pic.
To find a name I'd use a good orchid software programme, and search for
progeny of T.cristata , looking for ones with some Ascocenda input − which
is I suspect where the orange colour comes from.
The Yip Sum Wah is a darker colour than any of the clones I grew in the past
- but how reliable is my memory after 10 years ? I had the 4n clone from a
guy in Hawaii ( Yip Sum Wah himself ? maybe − can't remember ) and a more
conventional clone only 2/3rds the size.
And whilst I'm at it − I have two plants in flower − or going over − almost
identical to RD Red Black ; One is ( I think, without making a journey to
the greenhouse ) Pat's Delight, and the other could be Gordon Dillon 'Pink'
; Thai vanda breeding inevitably leads to lots of virtually identical
flowers under different names , just as UK Miltoniopsis breeding did.

Rodge − you might like to forward my comments on the Trudelia cross to your
friend, since he won't see them as a non-member − why not enrol him whilst
you do ?

From: Kenneth Bruyninckx
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:30

I'll give you a few hints. it is a primary Ascocenda hybrid with one half of
it being Vanda cristata. the other half of course an Ascocentrum species!

From: Andy
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] my latest pics
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:30

Great plants and photos Geoff. I especially like the cirro/bulbos. The B eberhardtii is fantastic − I see it is now Cirrhopetalum picturatum though I don't really understand the nomenclature. The little yellow one is a great colour too. I have a few different ones in bud right now and await their opening with interest.

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Psychopsis
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:50

Geoff, Your Psychopsis is a magnifiecnt flower. At the last BOC Congress I bought Psy. papillo 'Aurea' and a photo is attached. It is now on it;5th flower and I would like to know how to initiate a further pseudobulb and maybe get another spike. Help appreciated..
Regards from a drenched Devon

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Roy's Vanda
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:10

It looks as if you will be now known as our resident Belgium Orchid Detective..........no guesses as to who I am thinking of.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Nectar.
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:45

A behind the scenes image of my Iwanaga-ara 'Apple Blossum'. Seven blooms and a lovely perfume. Nectar droplets freely produced.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Iwanaga-ara 'Apple Blossom'.
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:55

As it is a wet, cool day here in Southern England, what better to do than mess about with a camera.

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: More of the plant.
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:20

It was Andy who commented on the fact that not enough images showed more detail of the whole plant. So, here is a shot of one of my Iwanaga-ara Apple Blossom.

Growing in granite chips, and at least enough room for another four or five years.

If there are any sceptics out there that still do not feel happy about trying this method of growing, may I ask this question of you.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Psychopsis
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:20

My understanding is that they don t particularly rest ; a new growth can be expected any time after the first few flowers, and if the plant is happy, it should go on flowering whilst making a new growth ; I expect young plants would not do this.

I had a friend, now deceased ( John Agar who may have been known to some members he was retired as MOH − Medical Officer for Health for an area including Swindon.)..a great Vanda and Catasetum grower too who had a Psychopsis which he showed year after year I remember him managing to get ten flowers out at once − a matter of a little luck, since with 10 spikes, you might expect flowers on say 6 or 7 at the same time , as there is a gap of days or weeks between one flower falling and the next opening .

I did once ask him if his plant had branched so many times that it had ten new growths, and he told me , no , it is some spikes flowering for several years , but in fact his plant was also multi- growth , so a combination of the two .

I would suppose that cutting the spike would help get a new growth, but not increase the number of spikes , until you get a plant strong enough to produce more than one growth at once.

> Geoff, Your Psychopsis is a magnifiecnt flower. At the last BOC
> Congress I bought Psy. papillo 'Aurea' and a photo is attached. It
> is now on it;5th flower and I would like to know how to initiate a
> further pseudobulb and maybe get another spike. Help appreciated..

From: Dennis Read
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Psychopsis
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:55

Thanks for the reply. I bought it as 'Alba' but was advised it was not so I elected 'Aurea' ' I have always been confused by these descriptions so I guess it could be 'Cincolor'
Regards

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Roy's Vanda
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:00

I searched for it on the net − thinking someone may be offering it on e-bay
or whatever. I only found one offer and that was $70. The form illustrated
by that dealer see http://www.sentinelorchids.com/miscellaneous.html

But $70 − no way.... although the dollar does get cheaper by the day ( 1.61
yesterday morning ).

But, I'll bear it in mind − if anyone happens to see it cheaper, (I'd be
glad of a tip-off.

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: FW: Roy's Vanda
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:00

p.s. The spike habit of Rumrill is very much like the Trudelias − tending to
be horizontal rather than vertical.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Fwd: Botanical Tours in Sikkim, Darjeeling Himalayas, Assam and Arunachal Pradesh in India
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:35

I received this today and pass it on for information only. I have no
knowledge of the organisation or their reliability.

From: Nature Himalaya
Date: 29 May 2009 0835
Subject: Botanical Tours in Sikkim, Darjeeling Himalayas, Assam and
Arunachal Pradesh in India

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interact with the local plantsmen and discuss your discovery and
fascination of plants.

Unexplored, especially areas in and around Assam and Arunachal
Pradesh, it is a treat for flora and fauna lovers.

We would appreciate emails though as sometimes we are located in
remote areas of the Himalayas making it impossible for us to receive
calls.

From: Tricia Garner
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Service will be resumed as soon as possible
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:45

There will be an interruption of service next week as my computer
will be out of action on Monday and Tuesday − hope that won't upset
too many :-)

From: geoff hands
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: Re: [OrchidTalk] Service will be resumed as soon as possible
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:15

> There will be an interruption of service next week as my computer
> will be out of action on Monday and Tuesday − hope that won't upset
> too many :-)

From: Roger Grier
To: Orchid Talk List
Subject: The Lesser Butterfly Orchid
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:40

Last evening I went to look at some Lesser Butterfly orchids. Either Deer or rabbits..... I suspect Deer, had eaten most of them.

However, I would like to tell you about this orchid. The image I have 'altered' a little to emphasis some points.

You can clearly see the 180 degree twist in the ovary, and you can clearly see the nectar/liquid in the bottom of the spur/tube.

Most of all though something that you can not see......................especially at 9 pm in the evening when I was there, and that is the fantastic perfume. My friend said that it was like the perfume from the garden flower, the Nicotiana, but much better.

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